Riggin' Info - Lancer 25

[dscribner]

Hi Guys and Girls,

I bought a Lancer 25 last fall and didn't really check out the rigging, assuming that the locations of the standing rigging (didn't know that's what it was called at the time) were obvious. Well . . . they're not. Does anybody have a diagram or a couple of photos of their rigging so I can copy it? I am assuming that they are attached to the perforated gunwhale trim, but there are not abrasions to indicate where they would go. We're just past ice-out up here so I plan on steeping the mast a couple of dozen times in the driveway to get the procedure down, but I won't eve attempt it unless I have a fair clue of where to attach it.

Oh, and in case it isn't obvious, I'm new to sailing. I bought the boat to build a passion for may sons and me.

Fair Wind and God Bless

Don

[Steve22116]

Good evening Chris, I too recently bought a 1979 25 and am in the process of getting the must do list completed so I can begin to sail her. There were several models of the 25 made and you just can't copy another rig unless you have the same model and even then there may have been changes made to blindly copy measurements.

That said...I need to measure my stays and shrouds, which I'll provide you later this week. Can you please let use know what your HIN is. It should be engraved on the transom, starboard side. Thanks, Steve

[Steve22116]

Good afternoon all I. I measured my standing rigging this afternoon and came up with the following dimensions. Steve
Forstay 30' 00”
Backstay 24' 05.5”
Backstay (split) 2@ 84 3/8"
Port upper 28' 01”
Port lower 14' 07.25”
Starboard upper 28' 01”
Starboard lower 14' 07.25”

All standing rigging is 5/32s and you can see how to measure rigging at the following link. http://www.dwyermast.com/measuring.asp

Chris, I still need to measure my split backstay and will do so next time I'm at the boat...the rest of the rigging was here at the house. SAC

[ColorfulPseudonym]

Hi Guys and Girls,

I bought a Lancer 25 last fall and didn't really check out the rigging, assuming that the locations of the standing rigging (didn't know that's what it was called at the time) were obvious. Well . . . they're not. Does anybody have a diagram or a couple of photos of their rigging so I can copy it? I am assuming that they are attached to the perforated gunwhale trim, but there are not abrasions to indicate where they would go. We're just past ice-out up here so I plan on steeping the mast a couple of dozen times in the driveway to get the procedure down, but I won't eve attempt it unless I have a fair clue of where to attach it.

Oh, and in case it isn't obvious, I'm new to sailing. I bought the boat to build a passion for may sons and me.

Fair Wind and God Bless

Don


Don,

The perforated gunwale trim is known as a toe rail and is meant to keep your feet on the boat. The only time rigging of any kind is attached to it would be to locate temporary sheet blocks for leading sheets from a jib to the winches (say, a large jib that required the sheets to go out as far as possible for a "fair" lead.)

Under NO circumstances is any part of the standing rigging attached to it. All that is keeping it on the boat is a handful of #10 SS screws.

You will need to attach the shrouds and lowers to "chainplates" which are large stainless steel straps that are attached to the middle part of each side (midships) with round headed bolts.

The lowers should be the shortest pieces that you have, so they would attach to the mast below the spreaders. The backstay should end in two very short pieces, attached to a triangle plate. The shrouds (from the top of the mast to each side) should be a pair of equal length wires. And the forestay should be what is left and it has an adjustable turnbuckle on the end.

Hope this helps.

CP

[John24307]

Hi, CP. I, too, have a 25. Since purchasing the boat about 6 years ago, I have attached blocks to the toe rail and run sheets through them to control my jibs. Is there any other way to effectively run a sheet to the jib? As far as I can see, I do not have any other deck hardware that would allow the jib to be controlled far enough out on either side to do any good. I, too, worry that the toe rail might not be substantial enough in a good blow. I removed and remounted the port toe-rail last season and discovered exactly what you mean about the relatively small screws.....many of which were not bedded down too well. Fixing that was a bit of a challenge! Got to do the staboard side this summer. Thanks, John

[ColorfulPseudonym]

John,

It is fine to attach the jib leads to the toe rail. However, you are quite right to make sure that ALL of the screws are well bedded and firmly seated. The metal of the rail itself is up to the job and the rail is really designed to perform this function, as well as that of safety.

The caution that I wanted to make above, was that under no circumstances would you ever attach any standing rigging (mast support) to the toe rail. It is not that strong.

You mention strength in a good blow. I can only caution you to shorten sail in a timely manner when you can see the weather piping up. If it got nasty enough to lift the toe rail, that might just be the least of your worries at that particular moment........

Best Regards,
CP