looking at a Grampian 25'

[dwayne13628]

Was looking at a Grampian 25, and I have some questions. I do intend to have a Survey done, but have a question before I spend the money. On the Keel, there is a crack, in the fibreglass that seems to follow a horizontal line.

[jimq26]

Not aware that Grampian ever made a 25. All standard models manufactured are shown on the website link below. They did some custom boats as well, but they were few and far between.That "crack" you refer to is where the cast iron keel has rusted beneath the fairing material where it joins the hull. Very common and not that hard to repair. I had my keel professionally ground, sealed and faired (my race record shows that it was worth it), yet every spring there is a little crack that appears in the same spots. C&C boats do the same, so do Pearsons etc etc.

[dwayne13628]

The marina operator told me it was a 25, but after comparing the hull with photo's on a Grampian site, a 26 it is. I will atempt to attach a picture of this crack, just to make sure. I am going to do a survey this week and if all is well, it is sold. My first boat.

[jimq26]

Don't know what that is - could be impact related or again may just be all the exterior fairing material falling apart. From looking at your posts on other forums, I would say you are looking at an old l969 clunker that has not had any maintenance done for many a moon.Looks like a chainsaw project to me, but a very quick survey will confirm if it has any value at all.

[dwayne13628]

So the damage in the image is not what you were talking about? What do you think something like this will cost to repair? They asked 5K for the thing, given that damage I offered 4K with a condition of a good survey. If its a clonker, all I have lost is 300 bucks.

[dwayne13628]

The crack extends around the keel. Despite the damage, I am really drawn to this boat for some reason. If the srvey is good, if the damage does not effect seaworthiness, and chainplates and bulkheads are good, its sold.

[jimq26]

Your photo shows the port side of the boat and only 2 portlights. A G-26 has two smaller portlights then the large main salon portlight. The first portlight is for the v-berth, the second for the head.I don't see the Grampian logo on the bow, the Grampian nav lights on the bow, the typical Grampian bow shape (spoon bill), or the Grampian rudder shape. Are you positive it's a Grampian?Did you look at the prices of the well maintained Grampians on the www.grampianowners.com website?I would suggest that $1500 would be the maximum value for this boat. Too much work involved to make it insurable and seaworthy.

[dwayne13628]

I think it is a Northern, which is what I said when I first saw it but the Marina operator was sure it was a Grampian.

[jimq26]

I can see now why there are the keel cracks showing up in places they never show up on a Grampian G-26. Check out the drawings of the keel, then check your photos - they match eh?Good luck with it. They made some great boats!!

[dwayne13628]

Thanks Jim, that Northern now has a place to call home.